This article forgot to mention that not long ago, the “fawn” and “blue” Doberman pups were culled (Killed) at birth. possibly the most frustrating comment thread in history… all I have to say is this – first – the dogs that exist, I’m sure they’re all wonderful. .. Doberman is a brilliant dog with any color and ears and if you want to have companion for you and guard for your children – take doberman. The white and the black. All our worries were put to rest. So whats the right dog food or treats to feed them. The people at the shelter wanted her to adopt him, but they couldn’t because he needed to go to a female only home. Mixing this with his water in the large container, he gets small dosages throughout the day. i think that we should do what is best for the breed . So sad. Knee jerks reactions, using religion as justification (c’mon get real), using only your particular dog as an example for all, and many other ridiculous defences, only hurts the DOGS in the long-term. both allels are black – you get a normal, usual dog (25% chance), 2.) Ive owned Dobermans over the years. As far as going from a one person house to a family environment this is doable if the dog is socialized around children. Never hurts to have all the facts. My white may squint in the sun but so do I! Very important. do i believe a doberman with an expected life span of 10 years that is prone to hypothyroidism, heart murmur, bloat and god knows what else and that has had ears and tail-chopped off is better up than a white doberman? So. It’s because of people like you who feel it’s not worth it to neuter them, therefor they keep reproducing . People should not judge what God has made just because they are wrong. There’s this awesome thing called Google, use it, and don’t just click on the first thing you see and read it. My uncle had a albino doberman for 15 years and was the best dog ever. Every time she and I go walking, I get compliments about her colour and how beautiful she is! Several different types available. Some people want purebred dogs from a RELIABLE source. Thank you , so sad anyone would want to encourage breeding white Dobermans, knowing the health problems they will have to endure. When my dad walked away, my mom firmly but calmly told him to cut that barking out, and he stopped barking, sat down and wagged his little tail at her. Katie at that point was 5 years old. So….should people breed Doberman Pinschers for the specific purpose of producing “Whites”? Negative space. THERE ARE MANY FINE DOGS OUT THERE BUT YOU GET VERY HORRIBLE COAT & SKIN CONDITIONS FROM THE DILUTE TO DILUTE COLOR BREEDINGS! I’m not certain where you are located. Brace yerselves for it… ALMOST ALL PUREBRED DOGS ARE THE PRODUCT OF INBREEDING! The two girls together are amazing. How sad and pitiful are you ? All of our dogs are socialized and do not have temperment problems. Known ailments associated with the Doberman (Von Willebrand’s Disease, Wobbles, Hip-Dysplasia) come from careless breeding. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. She has the dobie markings…just two different colors of cream. Go to the pound and get the dog of your choice. I’ll introduce myself and more than one “different” color Doberman. Albino is not a variation of color it is a lack of color. Kongs with peanut butter are great too, but these only last so long. The first white Doberman registered with the American Kennel Club (AKC) was named Padula’s Queen Sheba (aka “Sheba”). Little kids that don’t know him jst run right up to him and want to pet him. In my eyes, it’s a crime to nature to breed anything like that. With time, love and patience he will become the dog god intended him to be. The youngest was 13 . We got her in the family when she was about 10 weeks old and now she is 5 years old!! They have a small amount of pigment, which makes the coat cream and the eyes blue. Excellent post for a youngster, see my reply to the post below to see why you are right. Black and white illustration of a Doberman Pinscher with ears up. Myself I dont like akc I would rather deal with A.P.R.I. I have a white doberman that I adopted from a local, reputable, dobie rescue – Second Chance Dobes. Such a pity the US still allows this irresponsible practice. i have a dobe,her father is black and his mother is did my dobe becomes golden brown?i mean pure golden brown.i searched the web but i can’t find answers…please someone give ideas about this…thanks!!! This can lead to aggressive behavior, like fear biting. I work for a Holistic Vet that created an incredible line of Cat and Dog food…if you’re interested, I would love to set you up with some free samples and tell you more about it. It seems the Doberman breed has a very strong heart. 5 10 0. He has been checked over by a vet several times and has no vision or health problems. Best dog I ever had. Like every Dobe, he’s happiest when with his family (me, my wife, our son, daughter and granddaughter). The temperament for these dogs are great. Exposure to children is essential to even an adult dog. So if you breed your dog again, you have 25% chance of every pup to be white, and 75% chance to black. Dr. S. At the University of Saskatchewan says that color has no bearing on the health and temperament of a dog. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. The only issue we have had with her skin is that we have to feed her a grain free salmon based food to increase her Omega intakes. Artist: Aykut Aydoğdu. Wish us luck! People can do what ever they want as far as getting a dog. But he was gentle as could be around them. Read all you can about dog behaviour to understand things from their point of view. Start your search now and free your phone. If you have ever seen a picture of Shebah you will see she was not totally white. She has always lived inside out of the sun. I recommend both of them and if your are close to either I can give you a contact person. Though this post will probably be burrows by more uneducated comments of “nu-uh’s” and “uh-huh’s” that one could read until they were blue in the face. Stop preaching your personal opinions, it isnt a crime to buy a purebred dog. Personally I work long shifts and what works for me is that I have two dobes to keep each other company. Does that NOT send a red flag right there? The goal in breeding is to better each individual breed. And she does not look her age. Tails should be docked in the first 3days after the dog is born. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. Just be responsible and don’t breed it like the owners of the two dogs that made your little bundle of joy. But it is not good for the breed’s future to perpetuate this mutation. So me and my husband adopted a 10 month old Doberman from San Antonio Doberman Rescue and advocacy. Why should we try to start a new color to a breed we ALREADY have, and make the white dobies we have now suffer with genetic/health problems so that MAYBE one day the white dobie gene pool will be dilluted enough so that they only have the same health problems as the other colored dobermans? Hey I do not breed dobermans but my neighbor does… I have researched the breed to the highest of levels cause I could not understand y she was hoping for a blue or white… Well we both share 7 acers and have one fence around the entire property… I breed wolf hybrids been doing so since I moved she breeds dobies and her brother breeds pitbulls. Breeders should Produce what they want as a breeder in a dog as long its healthy and functional or not deformed its about your preference because have to feed keep and raise the dogs not another breeder I wouldn’t dare breed to please other people like if you like it buy it if not I will raise and be stuck but at least I will be stuck with what I like. Hey Sarah, do you know of a good breeder or where I would have the best chance of finding a white? You people are a bunch of hypocrites. If a red dog has one partial albinism gene, it becomes isabella/fawn. We ate in Huntsville, AL. It means they are subject to more possible health problems and should not be used for breeding. if they POP up, that’s one thing… but don’t be an irresponsible breeder and try for a dog that will diminish the breed standard. Educate yourself, you freaking twelve-year-olds. That in no way is improving the breed. last but not least Doberman’s have one flaw THEY DON’T LIVE FOREVER. Anyone who tries to sell an Albino Doberman has an inferrior breeding program, they are culls. Hope this helps you decide. Would like to tell you my story. These dogs eyes are quite large and thus produces enough pigment to lend opacity to the eye, often colouring the iris pale blue. 7 11 1. Santa Claus Woman. I do have a serious issue with destroying White Doberman pups at birth. so its ok to cut boys penis’s but dont touch dog ears? Gun dogs vector illustration. I have raised Black and Tan, Red and Tan, Blue and Cream and Tan. She loves to swim in our pool,the lake,ocean, whatever.Black and Tan have always been what most people think about…but, reds,fawns,blues etc…have made there way into common breeding…why not whites? Thanks for sharing your story about your sweet girl. How is the red and black dobermans with children, especially small children? Now what? I have a beautiful,sweet WHITE dobie who will be five this year. Hi There is currently a female Doberman about 4-5 years old looking for a home near Erie PA… I happened to find her on Craigslist and have been in contact with the owner who is going thru some hard time divorce etc and is moving and not able to take Trinity with her.. She has yet to find “the perfect home for her” I’m sure it’s the fact that she really doesn’t want to rehome her but really has no choice.. I’ve done my best to help but haven’t had much luck. So smart and loves attention. I can’t take him anywhere without people asking if he’s a show dog. Good breeding is done to maintain the health of the breed as a whole. They do have blue eyes and excellent eye sight. what color puppies will a blue female doberman and a black and tan male doberman most likely produce? You’re a FUCKING BOZO!!!! This statement is not intended to make you mad. We are in our 60’s. Not everyone wants one, and people are impressionable. Yes humans manipulate genetics for their entertainment at times, and at times they are guided through intelligence and a divergence from the norm that forms that which has given us the diversity in all living things, the mind expanding wild and exhilarating roller coaster ride of explosive evolution. Females spayed at 12 months or younger, and both genders neutered or spayed at over 12 months had significantly increased odds of developing hemangiosarcoma, compared with intact dogs. Copyright complaints  ~   But, if you speak with knowledgeable professionals, who hold no bias, you will hear, time after time, after time that the gene that carries the diluted white…..DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY CARRY WEAKENED, UNHEALTHY CHARACTERISTICS….This is a fallacy. Turns out she has a heart murmur. PLEASE do research before you try to spout nonsense. They don’t call them Velcro dogs for nothing , in the 40 or so years Doberman’s have owned me I have never went to the bathroom alone , they are always at my side. You don’t understand breeding. If you truly cared as much as you would like others to believe, you would take the time to understand instead of spouting off at the mouth when its painfully obvious you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. As far as loving them as a dog, absolutely. She has NO health or behavior problems what so ever. Alert. to clear up the debate on albino dobermans. as a vet i have seen so many of you love don’t love white dobe but the thing is its not about the health or about the color or where it came from what matter is how you love your pets if you define them differently then you define your pets as pest not with love. All due to old age band sickness. Give your head a shake. It does not necessarily mean that there is anything wrong with the dog itself. I’m assuming the person who wrote this article never needs sunglasses! I’m not for one second saying they’re not great dogs and I’m sure you love them. Either due to crafty paper work practices or AKC ” slip ups ” . Get both to the door to beat each level. Neither are purebreds. We have a Fawn Dobie that descended from a white dobie. I wonder if this is what happens with dobermanns. A Black and Rust pedigree Doberman Pinscher has the same chance of being a carrier of poor, breed-specific, genes as the White. , I have grown to love the Dobmerman due to their intelligence, loyalty and gorgeous looks. (Think back on your Punit Square from Biology class) I do Not think it would be right to breed with the specific intentions of producing a litter of beautiful White or Cream color Dober-Babies. That’s why good little republicans want to outlaw abortion because who wants an unwanted brat around. White Dobermans are predisposed to many health issues. Thank you for your support I hope you can answer. I agree that the albino is in her gene pool…but, she is NOT an albino. If you have a white and healthy doberman consider yourself lucky. Heartbroken, and beginning the search for another. Your Doberman will be fine. But health problems or no, like I said he is my baby, I love him sooo much and I wouldnt trade him for the world. And Marcela Rodriguez, you might want to try fish oil and get your blue in to see a vet and or a dermatologist quickly to try and help his coat. His appearance is that of a GS trapped in a Dobie body. We have watched him self monitor in the sun and while he has skin tags, not one of them has been anything serious or detrimental to him. However it is discouraged to breed these Dobermans because of their health issues. Otherwise it is a very serious amputation surgery after that time. More educated people know about this so spread the word. my first time breeding a dobe i got black, red, fawn, white and cream. Both children learnt to walk by grabbing two fists full of Cleo and pulled themselves up? wow…i totally agree with flower. The animal is still considered an albino, however, because it carries an albinistic mutation. Haha, just like it’s wrong to have RRB without the ridge, even though those one’s tend to be healthier, so pure whites or blacks shouldn’t be bred, but either just sold off or put down like the do with the RRB’s without the ridge? What a bunch of self- flattering snobbery, 1). Doberman Dog Black And White Long Sleeve T-Shirt: Free UK Shipping on Orders Over £20 and Free 30-Day Returns, on Selected Fashion Items Sold or Fulfilled by Black people have higher rates of high blood pressure and are more likely than whites to have vitamin D shortages in northern hemispheres because their skin is so dark that they don’t manufacture enough of it in northern countries. “Responsible” pet owners do what is best for loved pet. they are not albino their eyes are blue. Your comment is awaiting moderation. Although I’m sure your dobie is beautiful, white and has a wonderful disposition, that’s not the point. They are beautiful dogs and behave just as well as any other dobe. Perhaps if people quit trying to stop what every one is doing and started promoting responsible pet ownership, first and foremost, maybe more people would be able to enjoy the breed. Liberal, if someone wants a well bred full bred fog with a health history, family history Great. I now have a black and tan female and a red male both 3 years old that I adopted. the dogs aren’t genetical cripples because of the color. White Doberman: White coated dogs are accepted even though they are not considered standard. His left front leg had all the parts it was supposed to but in a mixed up order! Thank you for your post. A little stubborn and head strong, but quick to pick up new things. To be a partial albino, the horse needs two copies of the partial albino gene. This is a fallacy. Still available? Before I bought our current Red Male, the breeder asked what I was looking for, I said I was a little partial to a Red Male never having owned a Red before. Please don’t justify ignorant human actions and behavior with a book and history that you have proved you have no comprehension of. You are not special. Beagle and boxer, bulldog and doberman, illustration,, The black silhouette of a Doberman Pinscher,, Miniature Pinscher vector hand drawing illustration in black color isolated on white background,,,, Dogs breeds glyph icons set. 3) If you have extra money enough, do NOT get the DNA tested, but rather give it to a homeless person on the street with a dog. i have an albino dob and a black on they both get the same food and go to the dog park 4 times a week and my white one is more helthy then my black and tan, Hi, again does anyone know of a breeder with blue and tan pups in the UK? However, she is overly friendly with EVERYONE and very healthy. 2358. x ... black and tan white papillon Public Domain. This is classic snobbery! How common is it? They’re not the ones that have the problem I think you need to seek some help. Any of my sickly pooches see the vet often and my healthy ones visit the vet twice a year for check ups and boosters. Although he is proficient in the classical tradition he can also play a mean I have a one gallon automatic waterer. I have had dobes for over 20 years blks, blue, and now white, i must be lucky because my wht dobe is a big lovable dog with no health problems. I can honestly say even thou pitbulls have a bad rep I have no problems with the pitbulls now the dobies I have a major problems with…her dobie attacks my cat and had my kid by the throat I know not all dobies are this way and I still love all dogs but if she was to have a white dobie that was inbreed somehow it highers the risk for innocent people to get hurt… I agree with people who say its not the dogs fault its the owner cause it is but I do not agree with the whole thing that if God made it it should be here God did not tell someone to make inbreed dobies. I wanted one that was very easy going, a little less territorial and on edge most of the time, because we had a lot of kids in and out of our home. If inbreeding or line breeding is used in any breed of animal to create an albino animal, there is a good chance that the animal will have health problems because of harmful recessive traits that crop up with the subsequent lack of genetic diversity. I have to disagree about additional health problems with the white/cream. You’re a puppy mill just like breeders that breed for merle in Chihuahuas. this makes sence, but i also have to work for a living. Article literally just said breeding white ones is inhumane…. Dobermans are beautiful…proud…noble…intelligent dogs and deserve the best we can give them…and breeding them to be sickly and have health problems is NOT the best we can give them. Don’t get me wrong, I am a huge fan of the American Doberman Pinscher. It disgusts me deeply. She has a perfect Doberman physique and is unbelievably sweet and kind. I feel he needs a chance at a much better life!!! I would not amputate his leg. Not sure if it is the novelty of the color that makes people want them and then reality sets in – Doberman’s are not low maintenance dogs by any stretch. Having said that, his eye sight is not perfect. She’s very sweet and affectionate about 6 month old. I am now 16) I can say that for some people, purebred dogs are better. standing up for the standard is what keeps our dobes as wonderful as they are… furthering a trait that isn’t considered “correct” (yeah … if you love them its correct) then you might as well cross that awesome dobe with that great confirmation intelligence and temperament with a mutt. The other from Lyme Disease. Please, it’s been said before in this thread – you are online – use google, educate yourself about this subject!!! All breeds of everything has standards, standards change over time. Spayed females had 6.5 times higher incidence of all cancers combined compared to intact females, and neutered males had 3.6 times higher incidence than intact males. Each one can only stand on platforms of the same color, but they can jump on each other's heads. When it came to thunderstorm phobia, all neutered or spayed Vizslas were at greater risk than intact Vizslas, regardless of age at neutering. Breeding of the fawn and blue is accepted by kennel club although most breeders do not breed these colours or see them as questionable but the so called “white” is a massive NO NO! Birth defects don’t require you put the dog to sleep, but be responsible and educated. It’s been recorded that one champion white even bit his judge prior to winning. Our girl Porsche is a love bug. These Dobermans actually do have health probs there white coat shouldn’t be exposed to sun I had a white dobee before. Single line minimal style Doberman dog vector illustration, Its not fair to the animals first and foremost. The blue Doberman is a dilute of black. Most popular Most recent. Shelter dogs and puppy mill dogs are bred by irresponsible assholes and greedy bastards. Audio. Do you know the health issues and aggression that can come without spaying or neutering? Some people love dobermans and only want a doberman. Standards change when there is enough demand by the breeders. Guardian dog breed. Having said all this, if you do find a white Doberman rescue dog or a white Doberman from a breeder with a good reputation, who does health testing,  please give them a chance. My lovely boxer/rottwreiler just passed away last week at the ripe old age of 16! I actually own a beautiful white doberman named Kapone and he is my baby. Too much sun, loud noises, rambunctious children at play, (not just bikes, skateboards, etc) even older kids can get on a dog’s nerves. We use cookies to help you get the best experience when using our site. My heart goes out to you and all who have had to deal with the lost of a good dog. But some people aren’t aware that the Doberman is also born in other colors. AKC registered the first one…it is a purebred…but it is not allowed to show…just because it says AKC doesn’t make it right. Whites have been insecure about this fact and rewrote history to try and make white skin more attractive when it is in fact inferior and a genetic mutation. I have seen him go up to a child that was fussy and nuzzle them to make them happy (with the parent’s permission). I couldn’t read your whole rant cuz I got bored …but my blue weighs 140 so your statement that they are small is false. Puts up with everything my kids do to him, he is protective, big and strong, and gives our family unconditional love. You have no idea what your talking about regarding White Dobermans. Doberman Dog Flowers. Are you kidding? You all claim to care so much about these dogs but yet you obviously put no effort into educating yourselves about them and how maintaining a healthy vibrate breed standard is accomplished. Amen to that… my wallet is clapping in agreement! What does it matter what colour a dog is. Look at american rotts and ero rotts same for german shepards. The gene pool would become weak and “polluted” in a relatively short period of time. You obviously are quite the Bible Scholar, huh? Over crowding in shelters is a human made problem that will not end in YOUR life time, so your whining is pathetic and futile. Do NOT watch it with young children!!!! The male dog is very intelligent, very loving and affectionate, and riddled with unfixable health problems. Unless you are familiar with and have done extensive research on all of the health issues that are in the breed today such as DCM, DVDob, VWD and hip dysplasia, I do not recommend breeding. Ninja – the perfect Doberman name for a dog with a pitch-black coat, but would also be fantastic for a dog that’s as quick as lightning Now my family is waiting for our new 3 months blue doberman. Can you tell me how your girl is doing and maybe send some pics? I’ve been reading the whole situation about the albino dobermans. When Becky started to talk her first word was Clee her word for Cleo as Becky got to four years old we gave in and let her hold Cleo’s lead as she had been asking from about two years of age ? ?Too much puppy for us (as we well knew when we decided on her), but we are all learning to adapt. The only reason I am writing is because as I was reading through I found one message that said “get rid of the whites no time for bad dogs” writen by “miller”! Dobermans are forever loyal and will always stay by your side. The dogs are victim to bad breeding which is upsetting and should be stopped. i am wanting to buy a doberman puppy as a pet because i have heard how intellegent and easily trainable they are. First one I’ve seen. Back to the people want the unusual, but don’t realize how much work comes with it. could anyone tell me their experience if possible with Z factor of puppies? When you buy through links on the site, we may earn an affiliate commission. i want to know what i can do to make his time better when he has to be alone. Their was life again in our house instead of tears and grieving. During his life span never suffered from any of the health risks associated to dogs specific on either side of his family. He doesn’t have an aggressive bone in his body. It’s a fact that #45 is a crook. While they may appear striking they have skin problems and are prone to sun burn. He has no signs of cancer. Even if he is expensive to keep healthy. Thin line icon. 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